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Rembrandt 2007

Rembrandt 2007

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Rembrandt 2007
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Hi :)

Let's see if GFX can digest this one. It's a Rembrandt.

Markers and pen, photoshop.
I enclosed a bigger single one.
 
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Avatar Merls

 02/18/07 @567

I love this kindoff stuff.

it kinda challenges the lazy eye a bit. good stuff, you should combine this tech with realistic imagery. that would be rad.
 
Avatar Basw

 02/18/07 @601

unique style, chapeau!
 
Avatar beatrizmatar

 02/18/07 @623

Great workˇˇˇˇˇˇˇ+10:)
 
Avatar kittyKat

 02/18/07 @626

im gunna be honest ARTOONATOR this looks like baby scribble.
sorry it was my first impressions.. I think you can do alot better.
why not make something like this
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Avatar Dutch-Memory

 02/18/07 @699

Agree with Bas, unique sort of style!
Good work Arne, keep it up!
 
Avatar Wallace

 02/18/07 @722

baby scribble? nope not for me

Great curves and flows in the lines,
to make an excellent composition.

Unique and can I say daring?

Keep it up! + 10
 
Avatar Medrano

 02/18/07 @747

my god I found my wallpaper!!! +10
 
Avatar iCandy

 02/18/07 @771

I'm afraid I agree with kittyKat. I guess it's just personal taste, but I really find styles like this to not be very imaginative or interesting, especially when you're capable of producing artwork of a much better quality.
 
Avatar deandude

 02/18/07 @781

SIGH

people....just because an artwork isn't photorealism or a beautiful babe doesn't mean the quality isn't good. It sounds like some of you don't have the slightest idea what you're talking about....

as for this piece...the composition is excellent, the colors are interesting...AND *drum roll* it's different! Well done...
 
Avatar ARTOONATOR

 02/18/07 @798

Thanks Dean. It is indeed a matter of subjectivity. This would probably make another interesting 'quality or not' topic I say; Vision! Screw quality! Or should I say...Quality! Screw vision! etcetera etcetera....

True, I can do a lot bett.....ehm...different.

To be hounest; I went for a distortion of the Rembrandt style to provocke people.
It's nice to see that opinions vary so much.
But at least Pam was fair enough not to delete it.
 
Avatar Wysiwyg

 02/18/07 @840

...sigh...if it isn't a fairy, dragon, or chick with big tits it mustn't be good I guess.

I caught the relation of work to title pretty quickly, but Art History was a big part of my college career so that helps.

I can easily see how this wouldn't be appreciated, not understanding the conscious choices that were made in placement/color. But I can assure you folks that there is more to it than 'scribble.'

But I guess Pollock was just 'splatter paint' too eh? :| You know...Picasso did realistic for awhile...it was good..but damn boring compared to his later (more experimental) work.

You guys have the right to your opinion, but look at some more art that's not just online at some 'anybody-post-your-work-communities'...open a book, go to a museum and broaden your views

I guess online there is no love for the impressionistic.
 
Avatar Daykan

 02/18/07 @842

nice work! really nice concept
 
Avatar ARTOONATOR

 02/18/07 @857

THANKS BRETT! Now that's what I call a backup
 
Avatar loneorbit

 02/18/07 @900

After reading and thinking about each side to this piece, in terms of quality and scribbles as some have stated. Enjoy how you broke out of your normal works (nothing against those of course) and posted something quite different, not just for you but the site in general. Direction this was taken is really eye catching and actually makes one think about it, art isn't always skin deep. Considering this is much different in terms of your work, it falls short on originality. Impressionistic art works are great if your audience understands them, however this style varies so broadly that at times it seems rather large when compared to other art movements. Style that was used for this fits the titled used, but does the title fit the piece itself? In other words what about this piece revels to anyone that its' in your own manner within the broader scope of a style.
 
Avatar MePhIstoZoR

 02/18/07 @976

Sorry pam, but i can't see baby scribble with this one either. I think it takes a strong confidence in your abilities as an illustrator to be able to push the varying degrees of rendering like this and the rest of Arne's work.

Arne. i'm really liking the way you're pushing the boundaries of your style with this one. The colours are stunning, and the flowing lines you have going with it work really well. To be honest i wished you had kept it a bit looser down the bottom of his robe, i think the contrast between that straight line (the fold of the fabric) and the rounded bottom is too stark, and alters the feeling / structure of the piece - especially in contrast with the warmer, more flowing feeling around the face / brush.

Nice one mate
 
Avatar ARTOONATOR

 02/18/07 @985

@loneorbit: quote; what about this piece revels to anyone that its' in your own manner within the broader scope of a style.

?? que? I don't understand that one. But for the style issue; Does it have to be compared to another art movement? The referering to Rembrandt is about style of expression, but not nessesarilly all about a technical expression. So maybe you're looking at it from an angle that prioritises style accessability?

@mephisto; Damn right, you spotted that last bit of 'fear of failure' in my attempt at free expression Your eye is still undefeated.
 
Avatar reuben04

 02/19/07 @012

not gonna lie man, i like your realistic stuff/cartoons a lot more. do enjoy the colors on far left tho :)
 
Avatar texel

 02/19/07 @140

Really nice to see you try other styles :) I miss a bit of "lod contrast", more contiguos zones not full of doodles... but it is very good anyway :)
 
Avatar AtomDeath

 02/19/07 @330

To start off, you are a phenomenal artist, I browse through your gallery and I see a wonderful style that is distinctly you. This however looks like it could have been done by anyone. There's nothing about it that sets it apart from the horde of other abstract 'artwork'. I respect the effort you put into this.
 
Avatar finwe

 02/19/07 @557

i checked out your gallery.. you are an awesome artist.. oO" so, i guess you made this one just to see reaction of the ppl, right?
yes i think those are babie stuff lines as you said, i cant see any aesthetical shapes at all but look at my profile.. i'm not someone talented on Art at all.. so probably i cannot see the artistic parts of the image.. or you all ppl making some kinda joking stuff around and i cant understand it too xD i dont know..
 
Avatar Cigaro

 02/19/07 @675

Agree with Brett and Dean. this just prooves that some people have developed dependancy to digital/online art which isnt even in the slightest measurable to traditional.

and regarding the "this could have been done by anyone" comment...sure it can be done, BUT WHY DIDNT ANYONE DO IT? thats exactly the thing here. no one
an artist makes pieces for himself, not for the sake of the public or stereotypes.

the same thing i see on my works. i do weird stuff and all some people do is nag and nag that i'm not doing normal stuff. since when does art have to limit itself into a certain shape in order for people to like it?
end of rant:)
 
Avatar ParanoidChild

 02/19/07 @762

it's always good to see :) someting unique and original..beautiful ;)
9/9
 
Avatar Juro

 02/19/07 @766

The work is pleasing enough, although not exactly revolutionary in either modern terms or skill, it is what it is. I fear it gets the attention it does because (as in much modern art) of who created it rather that what it is, or what it says. Which is interesting in itself.

I like your freestyle work more.

Keep the arty fartyness going big boy. (thumbup)
 
Avatar ARTOONATOR

 02/19/07 @781

Ok, thanks people. Juro, me not very popular here anymore, so I think it's the discussion itself that drives people. Not the work either, you're right there.

And I guess, to people that know more about modern art, it's not original. To people that don't, it's 'too original'. But I think it's just a piece I made for fun, expressing myself in a different way than I'm used to. This is what came out, and that's that. I love the fact that things like these are such good food for discussions, that's why I posted it.

Don't mind me, keep talking ;)
 
Avatar Juro

 02/19/07 @816

"But I think it's just a piece I made for fun, expressing myself in a different way than I'm used to. This is what came out, and that's that"

That is one of the reasons it deserved a +7 from me. And it's good to create debate without poison, something that seems to be lacking in on this site lately.:)

And Arne, I think it's safe to call me Glenn by now ;)
 
Avatar GijsRoest

 02/19/07 @844

'How do you define Art?'

Reading all the messages and taking in consideration art-history (ideologies, movements, trends, etc. etc.) it seems that the most influential group of each time (let's call them 'elites') determines if something 'new' is accepted and advertised to the public. However, sometimes the public catches on to art that is accepted and pushed forward to 'change' what the elites have established (let's call this revolution).

The GFXArtist community is open, in the sense that everyone can have an opinion and we all determine what is 'Art' and what is not. Sometimes people even joke about all the popular topics (faeries, dragons, women, etc. etc.), my point: we create this because we like it of course, but also because we are thinking inside the box we created ourselves (don't be offended, I am only saying that everything is related to personal opinion).
My definition of art is that the beholder should always be able to see that someone has used his skills to perform the work: really 'performed his/her art'. I think that the originality and courage to post this IS proof of Artoonator’s skills as artist :).That's why Artoonator's piece is NOT art in itself (in my humble opinion), but a proof of the skills of the artist (or start of the revolution).

The question 'How do you define Art?' should be changed to: 'Is all the work of an artist, Art?' I think the answer is a negative, which implies that people that aren’t artists themselves still can have an opinion about the definition of Art or even create their own.

Anyway, nice you made sure everyone is awake :). For that I reward top points.
 
Avatar AtomDeath

 02/19/07 @889

In all seriousness how do you, Arne, feel that this has somehow pushed your skills as an artist?

And, I can think of lot of things people have not done before, but how does that fact alone merit greatness?
 
Avatar deandude

 02/19/07 @920

^^why does he have to push his skills with every piece? He said he was just having fun....can't creating art just be fun without trying to "push your skills?"
 
Avatar ARTOONATOR

 02/19/07 @925

@Glenn; Ok pigbrain

@Atom on skill pushing; Good question. It hasn't pushed my skills perse, but things like these do strenghten my confidence in intuitive decisions. Some artists speak of an 'absolute sense for composition', saying that, without technical insight, they are able to depict a perfect golden mean. What I'm trying to do is combine all kinds of elements (such as color, line-types, structure-types, etcetera) with only "confidence" as a tool and without pre-occupations.
What comes out has to strike a sense of balance for me, and if it does, it gives me joy.
And...greatness? That is also subjective. So who knows? Everybody for themselves I guess.
To me, art excists in the eye of the beholder.

@Gijs; Yeah, ok, but the important question....do you like to look at this piece?


Art sucks, I'm not an artist. Says the artist.
 
Avatar MsMichelleLynn

 02/19/07 @968

Well I for one enjoy this art. It's unique, colorful, and pleasing to the eye. ^5 for doing your own thing Arne!
 
Avatar Slapo

 02/19/07 @984

How much did you drink to get a vision of that kind? ;)
Seriously, I don't like modern art much nor abstract art (yeah, I'm the guy who prefers realism, mostly), so no rating for the work itself.
Just curious, how do you get ideas for this kind of stuff?
 
Avatar Juro

 02/19/07 @990

I wouldn't go as far as to say I hate modern art, some of it can be quite pleasing to the eye, colours and such like. If it is fun to create then why not?
 
Avatar Wysiwyg

 02/20/07 @010

Well said Glenn, Cigaro....

Also, if it were just 'good' or another generic Ballistic Publishing-esque work (such as aformentioned faires/warriors/fantasy/elves etc)...

....would it have gotten as much discussion? Or would have people just posted another:

+10 Amazing Work! (thumbup)

and moved on to the next work in the galleries. :|

The very fact that it has garnered so much attention (whether due to it's author/intent/execution is not relevant) makes it a successful work in that people are thinking and discussing not just this work, but various attributes/motivations/purposes of what art are. THAT'S WHAT GOOD ART IS!
 
Avatar GijsRoest

 02/20/07 @041

Its not my taste, but I appreciate the piece as something that helps people communicate more easily. Its like wysiwyg said. Art is communication in one of its purest forms.
 
Avatar bakatron

 02/20/07 @317

you know i like the fact taht you always seem to show how much youre enjoying whatever youre making and its inspires the rest of us.

your spin on rembrandt is brilliant.
 
Avatar ARTOONATOR

 02/20/07 @482

Great, thanks! Inspiring is good
@slapo; Read response on atomdeath. It sucks, as soon as people don't understand or like something, eventually someone will bring up 'booze' or 'drugs'.
Life is a natural high, use it.
Except for using the coffee boost ofcourse ;)
 
Avatar PeterGrave5

 02/20/07 @584

omg are you people serious, you can't see the art in this....get up, back away from your computer, find your car keys (covered in dust) and go to a freaking art musuem once in awhile...i'm not talking about replicating traditional styles as much as learning the art history that shows how much of an evolution this piece is.../rant

arne this rocks, love the sense of structure that somehow makes its way through, i'm completely envious of your coloring idea here.
 
Avatar kittyKat

 02/20/07 @727

I challenge you Arne... no more experiments post those in the GFX forum if you wanna do this... but I challenge you make something kick ass.. blow us away think back to the days before you were elite remember those days??
yah think back to then, the drive you had.. then make something..
you don't have to ... but it would be nice.
and my god let this one go... gessss..
 
Avatar deandude

 02/20/07 @798

omfg Pam....you're not getting it

this piece IS kick ass because of the discussion it's created and I'm sure that was Arne's point....

If you want to gawk at beautiful women and elves and fairies and horsies and unicorns and pretty castles and pretty rainbows click over to DA or every other gallery in this joint...rotfl
 
Avatar kittyKat

 02/20/07 @890

I really truly wish you would take me out of the category beautiful women and elves and fairies and horsies and unicorns and pretty castles and pretty rainbows
you honestly DO not know me at all.. and please stop budding in Arne can talk for him self. also if Arne wanted to get a reaction out of people, he should have posted in the GFX forums.
 
Avatar deandude

 02/20/07 @900

hehehehehe come on pamie...i'm just giving you a hard time :p

and arne can NOT talk for himself....he would be nobody without my valuable wisdom :/
 
Avatar ARTOONATOR

 02/20/07 @945

It's true, I totally depend on Dean.

But I'll give it a try; I know you don't like it Pam. But it's my choice at the moment. That other stuff you're talking about; I have to do it all the time for clients, so for me it's more fun to post my free work here.
Still, this isn't some scrap, it has value for me so I post it in my gallery, the quality within the genre isn't too low for the gallery, it's my gallery and I really don't mind the discussion on my post. So. Oh yeah, and there's nothing missing in any drive what so ever. I'm just searching.
But you didn't comment on my puzzles and stuff. Those weren't experiments.
If you mean the realism; I quit the realism. It got boring.
 
slaphapy5

 02/21/07 @061

well. first of all i'm going to ignore the arguments, frankly because I just dont want to read more of "what is art?" and also just because there' s a whole lot of it. . .

anyway, I do rather like the full color version. not a fan of the other two in the series.

The colors I think are quite expressive. and that's all art is about.

although I couldnt help but feel like there was a slight. . . dare I say . . . dada artist coming out with this?

but to each his own. either way. I do like looking at the full color and it makes me rather happy. something i need more of ! :p
 
Avatar Wysiwyg

 02/21/07 @220

oh...dada...the only art movement that I never liked.

*goes to pee <---don't get the reference? Read some Art History ;)
 
Avatar Merls

 02/21/07 @420

second comment on this work, to participate in this discussion

The greatest flaw in the digital art community is the close minded thinking. right now people are saturated with hot chicks on bikes that are over rendered. there should be room for this.
I am actually blown away by this piece, as I said, people anticipate for the normal kind of art works, that makes the digital art community a close minded one.
It would be great to see gfx artist support this kind of work, it would provoke people to think instead of saying 'wow' all the time.
 
Avatar ARTOONATOR

 02/21/07 @558

Dada? I haven't had a sheit in me knickers since I was three, so I guess not.

It's rather 'Arnistic' don't you think? :p
 
Avatar MePhIstoZoR

 02/21/07 @566

I'm still so confused as to how people can be so divided on something like this. I mean, sure - people always have differences in opinion, but surely one can respect the ambition, enjoyment and talent put into a work like this. I mean for example i hate Andy Warhol's work with a passion, but that doesn't mean i don't respect his work and the ideal's he portrayed. I don't enjoy the visual aesthetics of cubism either, but that doesn't mean i don't think artists like Picasso are breathtaking....

Get over the fact that this piece isn't your cup of tea, move on but during that transition don't take a verbal dump on something like this. It neither deserves nor represents it.

Since when does something posted have to be in the forums if a reaction is wanted? That's like saying you can't put paintings in an art gallery if you want people to comment about them. Really, come on.
 
slaphapy5

 02/21/07 @678

lol "arnistic" ok. i can go with that.

@wysiwyg. you probably didn't like it as it was essentially an anti-art movement :p
a bunch of egotistical 'artists' out to show that the world didn't know what art 'really' was. :p

wow that sounds familiar. . .

either way I wasnt really trying to be rude. I do like it. (except for the ones that aren't in full color). and it's definately something I could see myself hang on a wall to catch peoples' eye and also as something to bring more life to a room.

(dont' try and sell it to me though :p ) haha.
 
Avatar ARTOONATOR

 02/22/07 @794

So you're going to buy it? Are you? C'mon, man, it's a bargon. For you my friend. Cheap cheap. C'mon man, you rich man, pull the wallet. It will please the wife, or the dog, or the opposite wall. Heeeey, c'mon man help a starving illustrator. BUDDY! FRIEND! TOURIST! HEEEEY COME BACK HERE!
 
Avatar Umanth

 02/22/07 @837

I adore these kinda works ! reminds my favourite artist Joan Miro's works but i think u did this sober unlike Miro ! :)
(thumbup)
 
Avatar Rafsan

 02/25/07 @339

The colored version is the best, because the colors are very well balanced.
that's something I can't say about the shapes.
I like it as a design for a flyer or a logo, but not as an illustration or painting.
I wonder if it would get +200 points and +50 comments if it was from an unknown member,..I guess not.
Arne ,the most important thing about art is to enjoy the making of it, I guess you always do:)
 
Avatar minkens

 02/26/07 @857

This is a rather cool version of sir Rembrant I can really see the classic rembrandt-figure in it , by so little detail, u managed that allright ^^
I prefer the one in the middle, for the colours (brown-reds) do match with the rembrandt-period in my optic :p
Other than that, nice work Arne
 
Avatar Gianna23

 02/27/07 @826

This is really something that pays tribute tio the old masters style of painting. I remember seeing the one Monet did of the chrches in different lights
http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/monet/rouen/

That is what this reminds me of.

I like the middle one the most, but I am glad you have included it with the others.
+10 for the diffrentness. (you maybe could have added a hue or tome to the background because the white is too hard)
 
Avatar WarrenLouw

 03/02/07 @759

Wow man, your one hell of a diverse illustrator. Even though its a very loose abstract style you worked with, you can still see that you knew exactly what you were doing.

Awesome job!
 
lysander

 03/06/07 @172

Even though I'm really usually not into this kind of thing, for whatever reason, I really, really like this. It's just...INTERESTING to look at. Incredible work!
 
Avatar killadore

 03/18/07 @974

i really love it. didn't bother to read whether anyone criticized this or not, frankly i couldn't give a damn if anyone did, because this is a minboggling painting and you deserve my respects for trying something as unusual as this and being able to pull it off so well. awesome job.
+10
 
Avatar ARTOONATOR

 03/19/07 @826

Thanks :)
 
Avatar Maidith

 03/23/07 @931

I think Rembrandt really could have done this, had he lived in the 21st century xD
 
Avatar kittyKat

 04/08/07 @765

 
Avatar blackshad

 04/09/07 @577

i wont critic this because obviously, we need some knowledge of art to understand the interest of something like that, and obviously lots of peoples on gfx doesnt have any basic knowledge of art. I respect your idea and your attempt a doing something like this :)
 
DizzyCow

 04/16/07 @829

+7/7!Excellent
 
Avatar dark-girl

 04/30/07 @071

i am speechless !!! my highest votessss
 
Avatar carpenoctem

 05/18/07 @627

You sure know how to provoke XD
 
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